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Old 07-14-2008, 08:57 PM   #21
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Fat is coming off my back and legs rather than tummy... I rather it was my abs.
I have developed tolerance to the 2 doses a day in terms feeling warm. Its pretty comfortable.
Only noticeable side effect is thirst. Not excessive but get thirsty a lot faster and even when my urine is clear or light yellow.
Able to see some increases in lean muscle mass. Almost corrected previous asymmetry in lats.
Old 07-18-2008, 07:02 PM   #22
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The experience of someone on TT/TC might be of interest. He did it for 6 weeks rather than 4.
Thyroid Protocol

Will end TT/TC dosing this Monday, end of 4 weeks.
Been on 2 TT/TC a day, never attempted 3, for most of the time since I acclimatised to it.
Be cutting down to 1 from today.

Weight is largely unchanged 175/176 pounds as I gained some LBM. Fat loss from the waste is a just a little about 3/4mm (caliper reading) from the ab area. Small increases in arms girth measures and in the chest area. Fat loss was mostly in the legs and back. The "tire tube" doesn't go around my waist anymore. Waist girth, drop about 1/2 an inch but my lumbar muscles grew some. The separation between the obliques and the abs are more prominent but there is fat infront of the abs that have not gone down as much as I hope. The fat around the solar plexus have gone down a bit though.

Going topical for fat loss in the navel area next. Will start in about 2 weeks.

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This will be the summary. Will update with a PCT summary.

I have used up like 48 doses in 30 days. Started with 1 dose a day. Experienced warmth but as it was comfortable, after a few days, tried 2 doses a day. Initially, it got uncomfortably warmed. So I did like 2 doses for 2 days, then back to 1. Then I developed some kind of tolerance to it, 2 doses felt comfortable. Last 3 days, I dropped to 1.

Besides feelings of warmth, experienced mild hunger pangs and strong thirst. 16oz of water a time was easy. No lethargy was encountered. I did noticed I was more sensitive to 200mg of caffeine that negatively impacted workouts where previously it didn't. Breathing felt constricted.
Did not have heart palpitations or anything like even with 2 doses. Did not experience strength loss or slowdown in strength gains. In fact, compared to previous HST cycles (mine is modified), I could increase poundages by 50% more than in the previous cycle.

Calorie deficit was lower than previous cutting cycles. Varying 10-20%. Previously, I aimed for 30-40%. I was hungrier than in previous cycles. I started at 79.5kg and drop to as low as 77.5kg around midpoint of the 30 days. And I got back up again to 80kg. Caliper measurement wise, I lost 5mm from my thighs, 4mm from calves. My prime target area, the waist drop 3mm at the abdomen and 1mm at the Suprailiac.

However after an initial loss of 3cm on the waist girth, it stayed there. I seemed to have lost fat from the periphery of my body most, the legs and upper body, especially, the back shoulders and chest. I however managed to gain some lean body mass. My upper arms and forearms grew 1cm in girth while my chest increased by 3cm. Lat asymmetry significantly reduced.

Bah, I was hoping to lose like maybe 9/10mm caliperwise from the abdomen. But taking into account my lower calorie deficit, I guess I shouldn't complain.


Will commenced PCT today for the next 30 days.
300mg 7keto.
2g Kelp.

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PCT update...

300mg of 7Keto feels like a TT/TC at 1 dose a day.
Am somewhat warm but I sweat more...
Not as thirsty...

Hmm wonder what 400mg will do...
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As far as I can see, no weight rebounds... almost 2 weeks since I stopped. I actually have lost about 1.5/2 pounds in the 2 weeks. Girth measures for arm and chest remain unchanged so its fat unless it is muscles from some other body part. I have been eating more carbo (100-150 region up from 60+) and I feel a lot less hungry. I think I need this amount of carbo to feel full. Calories are around maintenance, if not slightly over the past week.

7-Keto at 300mg does leave me as "warm" as I was initially at 1 TT/TC a day and just somewhat less "warm" than 2 TT/TC a day once I developed some tolerance to it.

Not sure if further updates on the PCT situation will be applicable as I will be starting on new stuff.

Basically, the 1 week rest period (HST strategic deconditioning) after 8 weeks of training is about to end and I have just began testing ATD for sides. Will run it for maybe 8 weeks at 1 a day and will try to bump it to 2 to see how it goes. Will be taking a lot of other stuff, Forslean, EPA/DHA/CLA/Guarana/Sesamin(The Fatty Acid protocol) and topical yohimbine hcl. I will get rid of the the tummy fat this round! Also going to see if I have the energy to add HIIT.

************** Final Thoughts ************************
Am ok after TT/TC for 4 weeks. The guy who did 6 weeks said he had problems.
7-Keto at 300mg feels as thermogenic as TT/TC at 1 cap a day. And you aren't as thirsty either.
So some might just want to try a high dose of 7-keto in place of TT/TC.

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No weight rebound issues. Still feel pretty warm (about TT/TC at 1 cap level).
7Keto at 300mg, Kelp 500/1000mg
For the past week:
Forslean 50mg (active) going to 75mg tmr.
EPA/DHA 3g active
Tonalin CLA 15 caps/12g active + 250mgx2 Guarana
Sesamin 6ml/3ml active
ATD 1 cap/25mg going to 2 cap tmr.

This log is thus concluded.

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