Supa T's Andropharm M1T and Sports Diol XS Cycle

[swolloniron]

man that sucks. I hate bunk cycles. such a waste of time/money.

Hopefully it will turn around for you.

[LLLLern]

Originally Posted by Supa-T

Day 14
Too long in between workouts but I'm back at it. I bumped up to 30mg's a day because I think this Andropharm stuff is crap. No sides, nothing even close to shutdown, I weighed in at 194 (avg) today and my strength hasn't improved even the least bit. This cycle may be a waste of time, but I am going to see it through and I am going to reconfigure to try to squeeze some sort of results out of it.
So, while I was going to shut off the M1T for 7days and pick up again at 20mg's, I am instead going to continue for a third week consecutive at 30mg's and bump the dose of 4AD/19Nor to 600mg's ea. (I am pretty sure that the Sports One is crap too).
I hate being the guinea pig on supps like these and finding out they're absolute horse crap. Especially when I am told that so and so got great results from them.

I ran a similar routine as day 8 just more weight in the squats and DL's. Mixed up the bicep routine a little bit, nothing spectacular. The Squats and DL's back to back about kill me and I only got in 27 sets overall tonight before my abbreviated cardio.
I will continue this log and hopefully see something happen very soon at the higher doses, if not in seven days I will do an OTC PCT and be done with it.

man that is a crock man that just sucks


thanks for being the guinea pig

[swolloniron]

Only other things I can throw out would be:

1) eat more.
2) Volume seems pretty high - esp with non key lifts - maybe put 80-90% of your time lifting towards squats, bench rows, deads, and military presses. Keep the other stuff low key (like way too many sets biceps/forearms).
3) I would personally avoid deads and squats on same day - Unless squats were decreased to about 70% similar to a Bill Starr type workout where you squat 3xWeek with middle session being 70% of Monday/first session.


Then again, sometimes products are just crap. You should see SOME gains on M1T damn near regardless of lifting style - and actually you did! I saw a post where you were weighing in at 199lbs. So you are gaining some (like +4).

Keep it up!

[solomon1979]

Are these products from muscleguy?

[mmowry]

Sorry to hear that there wasnt any noticeable markers that it was working.

@20mg doing the volume of deads/squats you should have been doubled over from lower back pumps.I only do 6x3 on squats and there were times I didnt make it through my second set (but I was strong like bull til I couldnt move.lol)

[Supa-T]

Originally Posted by swolloniron

Only other things I can throw out would be:

1) eat more.
2) Volume seems pretty high - esp with non key lifts - maybe put 80-90% of your time lifting towards squats, bench rows, deads, and military presses. Keep the other stuff low key (like way too many sets biceps/forearms).
3) I would personally avoid deads and squats on same day - Unless squats were decreased to about 70% similar to a Bill Starr type workout where you squat 3xWeek with middle session being 70% of Monday/first session.


Then again, sometimes products are just crap. You should see SOME gains on M1T damn near regardless of lifting style - and actually you did! I saw a post where you were weighing in at 199lbs. So you are gaining some (like +4).

Keep it up!

I'm already hovering around 4500cals a day, and originally I wasn;t going to log the "vanity lifts." But it doesn;t look like I'm doing anything if I don't, lol. I do get in presses, rows, squats and DL's twice a week, but like I alluded to at the beginning I am horrible at logging-mostly because I will leave my log at the gym or in my car or at home (when I am using a CPU elsewhere). I am putting together a better system so this doesn't continue to be a problem. I'm sure it's frustrating looking at my log and seeing four WO actually charted and four mini-posts saying "rinse and repeat."
As for the forearm battery, that's for sports training and I have to keep my hands strong-usually something I would define as a "vanity" lift.
Thanks for the advice, especially the Starr WO, I'll look into that. I just recently have been able to start on the squats and deads again so I think I may be a little over-zealous right now.
As for the weight, I believe it was all water. While I was in the hospital with my son this last week I start on two Novedex at night (#1 to use up the last 10 caps in a bottle, and #2 to see if my theory about it being water weight was valid). When I left the hospital on Friday I was weighing 194...so I may have been right.

Originally Posted by solomon1979

Are these products from muscleguy?

Nope, but they did come from someone I'm sure we all know (I will protect the innocent because I am sure he didn;t know better-besides, who's to say it won;t "kick in" now?)

Originally Posted by mmowry

Sorry to hear that there wasnt any noticeable markers that it was working.

@20mg doing the volume of deads/squats you should have been doubled over from lower back pumps.I only do 6x3 on squats and there were times I didnt make it through my second set (but I was strong like bull til I couldnt move.lol)

I did experience some back pumps, but they were very minor and could have just been from lack of use more than anything else (2 mos off from squats and DL's can do that to a guy)


I appreciate the input guys and welcome all advice. I'm going to hit it hard everyday until I gotta go back to the hospital on Tuesday and report as well as I can. Luckily I have a partner for the next few days too to keep me on task and push me hard.

[Supa-T]

Day 15
Weigh in:197 (dropped the AI)
30mg's M1T, 600mg's 4AD and Nordiol-19
Didn't feel strong at all after dosing all that so I am pretty positive this has been a waste of time, but like I said I'll ride it out.
Had to alter my WO today to re-align with my partner who had altered his while I was away (punk, lol).
pull-ups: Hammer grip 3x10
Lat Pull-downs (this was stupid after pull-ups, but sometimes you have to give a little) 10x150; 10x175; 10x162.5; 10x162.5
Cable pulls: 80lbs (each side) 3x10
Bent over rows: 80lbs (yawn) 2x12; 130x10; 160x8
Upright DB rows: 45lbs (ea side) 2x10; 55x10
Military Press (DB's): 45lbs 2x10; 55lbs 1x10
Lateral flies: 20, 25, 30 sets of 10 ea.

Should have mentioned that I did a light chest/ shoulder WO so I could go again on Tuesday.
I did some flat bench and cable flies but didn;t log it because it was more just range of motion crap in between sets w/ 135 on the bench and 40 per sd on the flies high-repped to just get the blood flowin'.
Of course did the battery on hands and forearms per usual routine. Not an impressive WO, wasn't chompin at the bit like I would be w/ SD or 1AD.
Anybody interested in 6 bottles of Andropharm (j/k gix)?

[LBVT]

That's so weird. I've heard good things about their M1T. It's the white bottle with blue lettering?

[UNCfan1]

Bummer!! I am here late but better than never! Hope it kicks in cause this should have been a great mass builder.

[Supa-T]

I may have been hasty guys...I'll post up later.