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Old 07-11-2008, 07:19 PM   #51
 
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Damn I'm out for a couple days and Kern's rockin, great job thus far.

As for the Powerfull ingredients I could speculate, but I'll leave that to the USP reps Some, like PA, say the 'listed' ingredients would have no effects after ingested but I'd have to say from the couple bottles I've used - I definitely felt pronounced effects. From improved sleep/relaxation to mild euphoria, dose dependant.
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She knows what she is doing.....they always do. Damn them! lol
lol - ain't that the truth

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Lookin good Kern

PS - Better wear a rubber dude.
I have a feeling she's a freak - and I would raw dog the hell out of it without a doubt lol!

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I'm finally here!

Very nice job on the log thusfar kern! I'm along for the ride my brotha!

Oh Snap!!! It's about time bro!! I knew you were busy anyways, hope all is well with the house and shit!

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Damn I'm out for a couple days and Kern's rockin, great job thus far.

As for the Powerfull ingredients I could speculate, but I'll leave that to the USP reps Some, like PA, say the 'listed' ingredients would have no effects after ingested but I'd have to say from the couple bottles I've used - I definitely felt pronounced effects. From improved sleep/relaxation to mild euphoria, dose dependant.
Yeah it really depends on whose word you want to take - this is not a business based on honesty though. I personally cannot stand USP Labs or Jacob. I called him out openly several times on P-slin and how after doing some extensive research I discovered he had just thrown together a bunch of ingredients used for Diabetes type 2 patients. He never responded nor did his reps. I'm sorry, on a personal level, I don't trust the guy, but will abstain commenting further as I am a rep now. I did the same with X-factor and researched the product extensively discovering how increasing leukotrienes (a by product in the creation or supplementation of arachondic acid) can create additional inflammation especially when you limit omega 3's intake as the product suggests... but I digress...

Day 9

Weight - 236lbs (+4 lbs overall - talk about water fluctuation)

Had some sciatic pain so squats were fairly limited unfortunately tonight - I don't know what brought it on exactly, but I'm sure it will sort itself out. Not much of a pump today - but I did toss around 225 on close grip flat barbell press for a few sets out of the 10x6 - pretty happy with that. Some guys were kind of grinning when they saw me only loading 45's at first thinking I was doing just straight flat... they pretty much had a change of heart when they saw me throwing around the 225 close grip when I know for a fact most of them can't get that up on a normal grip flat. It's nothing crazy compared to the general bb online crowd - but not shabby for myself. I don't half ass rep either - form is priority numero uno for me.

So I was doing SLDL's on the second round of exercises in front of the mirror with 285 - 315 - now hear me out. I don't consider myself let's say a very atypical attractive person that women throw themselves at - especially attractive ones. Doing the sldl's and a squad of 4 chicks, fairly attractive walk by and up the stairs to the cardio area. There is no mistake about it because there is no one a mile around me - they are glued on my butt as I do sldl's lol. Most awkward thing I've personally experienced thus far in the gym because it was so blatant I didn't know what the hell to make of it - usually it's us guys being jackasses and staring at some hot girl with our mouths open and drool coming out.

Maybe they can smell the 4-AD who knows

Anyways I may be absent from here for a few days - I don't want to get too much detail but my moms is in the ER overnight being monitored for various things; hopefully all is going to be alright. With that, this week and moving offices, etc it's been physically and mentally stressful. I'll do my best to keep up with the log and share my rambling quirky stories and hopefully keep you all entertained.

Sides: Nada - hopefully the G50 hasn't lost its potency as it expired in March 08.

Question for the peanut gallery: What are your thoughts about the 11-OXO bridge? Good or bad? Why? Ultimately it was PA who recommended it.
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So I was doing SLDL's on the second round of exercises in front of the mirror with 285 - 315 - now hear me out. I don't consider myself let's say a very atypical attractive person that women throw themselves at - especially attractive ones. Doing the sldl's and a squad of 4 chicks, fairly attractive walk by and up the stairs to the cardio area. There is no mistake about it because there is no one a mile around me - they are glued on my butt as I do sldl's lol. Most awkward thing I've personally experienced thus far in the gym because it was so blatant I didn't know what the hell to make of it - usually it's us guys being jackasses and staring at some hot girl with our mouths open and drool coming out.
Dont you just feel violated....


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Yeah it really depends on whose word you want to take - this is not a business based on honesty though. I personally cannot stand USP Labs or Jacob. I called him out openly several times on P-slin and how after doing some extensive research I discovered he had just thrown together a bunch of ingredients used for Diabetes type 2 patients. He never responded nor did his reps. I'm sorry, on a personal level, I don't trust the guy, but will abstain commenting further as I am a rep now. I did the same with X-factor and researched the product extensively discovering how increasing leukotrienes (a by product in the creation or supplementation of arachondic acid) can create additional inflammation especially when you limit omega 3's intake as the product suggests... but I digress...
It honestly is amazing how on the same page I am with you in regards to this entire statement. I actually feel like your in my head typing what I'm thinking, lmfao. I agree with everything you just said in regards to USP, and x-factor. Crazy small world.

Having said that I hope all is well with your moms. No need to update the log bro. Family comes first.
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Yeah it really depends on whose word you want to take - this is not a business based on honesty though. I personally cannot stand USP Labs or Jacob. I called him out openly several times on P-slin and how after doing some extensive research I discovered he had just thrown together a bunch of ingredients used for Diabetes type 2 patients. He never responded nor did his reps. I'm sorry, on a personal level, I don't trust the guy, but will abstain commenting further as I am a rep now. I did the same with X-factor and researched the product extensively discovering how increasing leukotrienes (a by product in the creation or supplementation of arachondic acid) can create additional inflammation especially when you limit omega 3's intake as the product suggests... but I digress...
I hear you man. I actually liked Powerfull even though the effects seemed exceedingly potent for l-dopa. Just as some of their other products have seemed exceedingly potent w/ pronounced CNS effects when they shouldn't have according to the label.


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Anyways I may be absent from here for a few days - I don't want to get too much detail...
I hope all is well, best of luck with everything!

The H-50 should be A-Ok. Kneller posted long ago orals usually stay fully potent for many years, and that the capsules usually go bad before the hormone itself.

As for the 11-OXO bridge - IMO it seems like it may work well with something weaker like 1-Dhea (unless all the sudden this's proven super potent). But if I were running a more suppressive cycle or a multi oral stack I wouldn't feel comfortable going onto 11-OXO and delaying PCT, JMO.
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Yeah... but it felt good lol... and thanks for the thoughts - she's out and much better.

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It honestly is amazing how on the same page I am with you in regards to this entire statement. I actually feel like your in my head typing what I'm thinking, lmfao. I agree with everything you just said in regards to USP, and x-factor. Crazy small world.

Having said that I hope all is well with your moms. No need to update the log bro. Family comes first.
You're scaring me Travis haha - oh well, great minds think alike! right? Mom's better, thank you.

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I hear you man. I actually liked Powerfull even though the effects seemed exceedingly potent for l-dopa. Just as some of their other products have seemed exceedingly potent w/ pronounced CNS effects when they shouldn't have according to the label.

I hope all is well, best of luck with everything!

The H-50 should be A-Ok. Kneller posted long ago orals usually stay fully potent for many years, and that the capsules usually go bad before the hormone itself.

As for the 11-OXO bridge - IMO it seems like it may work well with something weaker like 1-Dhea (unless all the sudden this's proven super potent). But if I were running a more suppressive cycle or a multi oral stack I wouldn't feel comfortable going onto 11-OXO and delaying PCT, JMO.
Yeah given the nature of the stack and not being too suppressive/high risk, I am willing to risk the 11-OXO bridge.

Thoughts on any pct items (if any) I should run while on it though just to follow the first part of the cycle?

Day 10

Did 25 minutes stairmaster followed by abs.

Day 11

Weight: 240lbs - +8lbs overall... water water water everywhere

Thoughts: Mom is out of the hospital and everything is all good, her bloodwork came back fine - we think stress may have just gotten the best of her and caught up causing the chest pains. Thanks for all the kind thoughts, it's greatly appreciated.

The water weight shouldn't be a surprise with the 4-AD but it seems a little excessive since I'm eating sub-maintenance calories and back to doing cardio 5 times a week. But then again I put on weight very very easily, pure endomorph - put on ~34lbs on my hdrol/bold cycle back in January (lost 12-13 3rd week of pct due to flu and pneumonia) and that was coming off of a cut. I'll post my diet later tonight as I have to study for two exams this week and finalize a marketing proposal as well.

Halo hasn't fully kicked in yet - no surprises there either as it usually takes at least 2 weeks to get going to my understanding (did for me the first time). Solid workout today, good endurance and strength. Tried Toney Freeman seated lateral raises for the first time today and I can't feel my arms - in fact it is seriously painful right now typing this out lol - and I did these with 10 lb dumbbells for 20 reps a piece. See the link below for video.

Almost at the end of 2 weeks so we should be full steam ahead for the next 2-3 and onward

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Great log double K! Glad everything is ok with your mother!
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Thanks man! Appreciate it!

Diet is as follows:

Meal 1: 2 scoops whey, 2 tblsp sunflower seed butter

Meal 2: 2 scoops whey, 18 almonds

Meal 3: 10 oz turkey breast cooked in onions, water, and paprika, 18 almonds, 1/2 cup broccoli

Meal 4: 9 oz baked Salmon, 1/2 cup broccoli

Meal 5: (Prewo) 2 scoops whey, 1/2 cup oats, 18 almonds

Meal 6: (Intra) 1 scoop Primaforce Substance Watermelon whey, 1 scoop EAA, 10 scoops Xtend, 6 grams BA

Meal 7: (PWO) 2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp sunflower seed butter, 10g leucine

Meal 8: 8 oz baked tilapia, 18 almonds, 1/2 cup greens/broccoli

Approximately according to my excel macro: 3254.5 calories with a 55/12/33 split in protein/carbs/fats... would like to do more whole meals instead of all the shakes but it's honestly very hard to do that with the job and everything else going on. Once I go into the 11-OXO bridge I will roll immediately into the Cut Diet 2.0 (used it in the past) and adjust accordingly the calories and/or cardio with time and progress.
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