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Old 07-16-2008, 11:27 AM   #21
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You are getting advice...lay off the stuff. Like Supa stated, ignorant kids thinking they know better eventually mess themselves up and in-turn parents join the coalition of anti-prohormonites (<--I know you all like that one) because "my poor little anabolic47 was a good kid...with a good liver. He didn't know any better. Now his liver and cock and bawls are just not what they used to be....sniff, sniff" and the rest of us trying to advise you will a raw stick with a ban. If you did your research as you state you have, you would know the answer to your estrogen question and know that your liver is more valuable than muscle gains. I don't know how many times I have come across threads of older bros, that started young and now wish they hadn't. The ramifications may not be obvious to you now....put in work, homie! Thats where its at right now for you. Most your natural gains can be occurring NOW. Take advantage of it..... Judgmental, nah...just broski's looking out for you.
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Are you being truthful to yourself here?
Lean Bulk is about SOLID advice. Some times the truth hurts man. I know you dropped some coin on this Mdrol cause you heard it was "badass". There are a lot of other sites that will just answer questions without concern. This isn't one of them!

There are hundreds of supps out there for the "over 18" crowd, that will help you put on some muscle AFTER you develop a solid training routine and diet. I actually enjoy them myself and have run some pretty nice Natty stacks that rival some of the milder PH's.
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:25 AM   #22
 
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ok thanks man thats the advice im looking for not judgement. but what if i tapered it down to one pill a down for just one more week over the month so my come down will be easier. do u think thats a good idea?
their wasnt any judgment bro we here lok out for others and at your age ( not flaming )
you should wait a little longer


taper down is not a good idea as it wont help gains at all
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Beter yet try posting a thread in the correct section next time
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Old 07-19-2008, 08:01 AM   #24
 
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Hey Broski

I think some solid advice has been given here.......if you dont like their opinions and advice, you can always utilize this function of the mb:

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I say we back off the kid, if he wants to take PH's let him, hes not hurting me, is he hurting you? Liver toxicity is being blown way out of proportion. Liver support won't inhibit your gains in any way, it will just add some support to your liver and clean it of toxins caused by the processing of methylated compounds.

I started before I was 18, and i'm fine. Depends on what your goals are, i'm in this for the long run, are you? Take a good look at what your goals are and if its just to get a quick fix to look good, reconsider please. I know of a lot of people taking stuff who shouldn't be, I watch them in the gym and they have no clue what they are doing. These products aren't for the everyday gym-goer, but someone serious.
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True he might be fine but everyone is dif
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True he might be fine but everyone is dif
'everyone is dif' need not apply here.

the only real kink in the equation is whether hes finished puberty or not.
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i get what u guys are saying. im not tryin to be a jerk about it. i am DEFINATLY not one of those stupid kids who just gets bigger by taking stuff. im 100% focused on what i want. i want to be a bodybuilder so i do everything i can. i was dumb and took stuff when i was sixteen. i havent taken anything since then. two years ago i weighed 130. now im a pretty hard 170. this is all i do. i follow a strict diet and take all the vitamins,fish oil,flax oil,joint supplents. everything. i train very hard as well. just want u guys to know i aint some punk kid who just works out. i live the lifestyle of a bodybuilder. no parties nothing. all i do is work diet and train. i've been in a rut lately and i want to see what kind of gains i can get from this stuff on TOP of my hard training and dieting. this isnt my quick fix i just feel im ready. i know im still pretty young but i think im ready. i started it yesterday. im runing it at 10/20/20. and i mignt run for the fourth week depending on the sides on week three.
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i get what u guys are saying. im not tryin to be a jerk about it. i am DEFINATLY not one of those stupid kids who just gets bigger by taking stuff. im 100% focused on what i want. i want to be a bodybuilder so i do everything i can. i was dumb and took stuff when i was sixteen. i havent taken anything since then. two years ago i weighed 130. now im a pretty hard 170. this is all i do. i follow a strict diet and take all the vitamins,fish oil,flax oil,joint supplents. everything. i train very hard as well. just want u guys to know i aint some punk kid who just works out. i live the lifestyle of a bodybuilder. no parties nothing. all i do is work diet and train. i've been in a rut lately and i want to see what kind of gains i can get from this stuff on TOP of my hard training and dieting. this isnt my quick fix i just feel im ready. i know im still pretty young but i think im ready. i started it yesterday. im runing it at 10/20/20. and i mignt run for the fourth week depending on the sides on week three.
Glad to hear it, now have some fun.
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