Test of CEL M-1,4ADD

[transXisomer]

PA's test of CEL's M-1,4ADD. If this is true this sucks ass because I have three bottles of the stuff.

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

Discount anabolics sent me another bottle of M-1,4add to test. This time it was CEL brand, lot P4075

only one peak and it corresponded to DHEA

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5608541

[Hacksaw]

Makes me wonder what other PH's we are getting hosed on. At least there is no lead paint.

[transXisomer]

^^ CEL is having another test done on that batch, anyone with the white bottles of M-1,4ADD have that batch. If it comes out it is just DHEA and not M-1,4ADD CEL is said they will make it right, and to email or PM them.

Their site:

http://www.competitiveedgelabs.com/

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Makes me wonder what other PH's we are getting hosed on. At least there is no lead paint.

I really think when you go the PH route because of the legality and such, the companies know the consumer won't sue them because who's gonna take a case to court where you bought fake steroids?

And plus in China they are cracking down on the manufacturing of these items, so its getting harder to get real stuff. And other than that, what PH companies have their products 3rd party tested to make sure that it is the right stuff? Not many, I have seen plenty of people who have bought clones stating they felt nothing, gained little, had terrible sides, etc. This could also be impacted in part by diet, but contamination, not containing the right active, not enough of the active, etc, all are factors that come into play.

Sucks but with government crackdown and such I think quality of these items will keep going down.

[joe1313]

Originally Posted by transXisomer

PA's test of CEL's M-1,4ADD. If this is true this sucks ass because I have three bottles of the stuff.



http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5608541

I thought the blue labeled bottles are good and the white labeled bottles are bunk?Is this true?I have 2 bottles of the blue label.

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by joe1313

I thought the blue labeled bottles are good and the white labeled bottles are bunk?Is this true?I have 2 bottles of the blue label.

CEL made two batches of the M-1,4ADD. One batch had blue bottles one had white bottles. The white bottle one is the one that PA tested out to be bad, so CEL is having another test done of the bottles.

Im not sure about the blue bottles. CEL, like with the white bottles, had them test at RTP (Research Triangle Park) to be the right stuff, but then again these are the same people used for both batches and with the current batch (the white bottles) PA tested it and found only DHEA.

I have also heard from a few chemists that RTP isn't too great of a place to get things tested, shady, so I don't know. You might have good stuff, might be bunk.

[LLLLern]

who says he test the bottles and says what he wants?

[celc5]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Makes me wonder what other PH's we are getting hosed on. At least there is no lead paint.

I think this has been an issue since this past summer. I started noticing poor logs around June or July for several products that people used to RAVE about.

If I were to guess, I'd say some of the companies are just as clueless as the consumer. I don't think they're purposely trying to rip us off. It just seems as if they don't have the resources for proper quality control. I have no evidence to back that opinion, just speculation I guess.

[joe1313]

Can anybody tell me what Epi product works best.I am running Bold,m1,4ad and Epi in January.Solomon helped me put the cycle together.I am confused and I do not want to buy bunk.

[temper35]

I believe Patrick Arnold tested Epidrol and it was what it was supposed to be.