Warning: VPX NO-Shotgun & BSN Cellmass

[transXisomer]

VPX 'No Shotgun' & BSN 'Cell Mass' Body Building Powders
Medicine recall
Level: Consumer Class: I
Reference: RN-2007-0691 Date agreed: 22 October 2007
Product: VPX 'No Shotgun' & BSN 'Cell Mass' Body Building Powders
Batch number: All batches
Sponsor: Crestkey Pty Ltd
Phone: 02 6281 6999 Elite Physique
Reason: These products contain traces of the prescription drug coumarin

Letters are expected to be dispatched by the sponsor within two working days of the agreed date.

ADVICE TO CONSUMERS:

If you have a container of VPX: NO SHOTGUN or BSN: CELL MASS do not use it. Return it to the place of purchase for a refund or call Elite Physique on 02 6281 6999.

Recall notices are expected to appear in the Canberra Times on Monday 29 October 2007
Classification system:

Class I defects are potentially life-threatening or could cause a serious risk to health.

Class II defects could cause illness or mistreatment, but are not Class I.

Class III defects may not pose a significant hazard to health, but withdrawal may be initiated for other reasons.

Class I & II recalls are considered to be safety related recalls.

According to the FDA, Coumarin is "prohibited from use in human food":

http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm

[Sonny]

Thanks for the heads up Trans. Although, I do not use these products the bad press is not good for all supps.

[celc5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coumarin

Coumarin is a chemical compound (benzopyrone); a toxin found in many plants, notably in high concentration in the tonka bean, woodruff, and bison grass. It has a sweet scent, readily recognised as the scent of newly-mown hay, and has been used in perfumes since 1882. It has clinical medical value as the precursor for several anticoagulants, notably warfarin, and is used as a gain medium in some dye lasers.

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Coumarin toxicity
Coumarin is often found in tobacco products and artificial vanilla substitutes, though it has been banned as a food additive in numerous countries since the mid-20th century because it is moderately toxic to the liver and kidneys, with an LD50 of 275 mg/kg - low compared to related compounds. Although only somewhat dangerous to humans, coumarin is a potent rodenticide: rats and other rodents largely metabolize it to 3,4-coumarin epoxide, a toxic compound that can cause internal hemorrhage and death. Humans largely metabolize it to 7-hydroxycoumarin, a compound of lower toxicity.

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So my question would be, WHY would this ingredient be put into exercise supplements? I don't see how this could potentially be productive. I also don't see how a substance "slips through the cracks" and could accidently find its way into proprietary blend.

[xOcular Penetratahx]

Don't forget about the Guanipro(GPA) that No Shotgun has.

I guess I will have to stick to Redline Princess

[PUSHINW8]

Why would they put an anti-coagulant in the product? hmm

[thedude]

So if we have any of it and we have a rodent infestation then it could very well be a remedy to the problem?

[transXisomer]

Update from VPX:

Shotgun Press Release,

"VPX has called the TGA which is the Australian equivalent to our FDA on more than a dozen occasions and they have failed to provide us with any concrete information to indicate that Shotgun tested positive for coumarin. We have also demanded that the TGA provide us with the test results that indicate Shotgun tested positive for coumarin in writing in the correspondence posted below. Again, the TGA gave us the run around. Please read for yourself below.

We then called an Australian supplement distributor who informed us that the TGA retracted the recall, but again the Australian government would not comment on this as you can see in the correspondence below.

We have tested NO Shotgun in house qualitatively and quantitatively with HPLC and IR and have found NO traces of coumarin. We are also having San Rafeal test Shotgun to further verify via third party the absence of coumarin.

Has anyone asked themselves why the Australian Government would randomly test VPX Shotgun? Well, hopefully you guys are smart enough to figure this out on your own. Hint, Shotgun kicks ass and takes huge chunks business away from the competition.

Even if these tests were authentic, one Cinnamon Bun in the mall contains more coumarin that an entire container of Shotgun! Also, coumarin is Schedule IV which is far less than ephedra, steroids, and prohormones. Also, botanical coumarins are excellent to lower blood sugar, blood pressure and a induce a myriad of other health related benefits. Get familiar with Google but don't stop at the third reference!!! Also, the drug Coumadin is taken in amounts of 1 to 10 mgs by patients daily as a blood thinning agent -- Even if these tests were authentic you would have to consume 3000 bottles of Shotgun to equal one 10 mg dosage of Coumadin. These points are all mute because Shotgun does not contain coumarin!"

[transXisomer]

BSN response:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6081291

[outside backer]

interesting bb.com thread that was

[TinyMan]

Originally Posted by PUSHINW8

Why would they put an anti-coagulant in the product? hmm

From what I remember, coumarin is a possible outcome from a cinnamon extraction, generally in low quantities. I think an aqueous extraction method will limit well in coumarin contamination. From what I remember, coumarin is not water soluble; but I could be wrong on that.