Fadogia - in reference to previously closed thread

[Gixxer82]

I"m trying to understand this.

Is what he is saying is that HIS product is standardized to contain a certain percentage where as he is claiming others products are not?

[dinoiii]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

I"m trying to understand this.

Is what he is saying is that HIS product is standardized to contain a certain percentage where as he is claiming others products are not?

Actually ... GET THIS:


"IF" he decides to update his androgenerator (*hehe, featuring CEE), it would of course be super-duperly, the bestest stuff on da Earth brother. Like for real - its "da sauce" yo!


So - how long before it hits his product?


Hmmmm... don't know - I had to give him the explanation of why when white cells increase, it doesn't mean he should abandon the idea yesterday, because just as all saponins aren't the same - neither are all white cells. But, anyone would know that, .... right?


D_

[meksi]

I was trying to stay as objective as possible thru this whole thread (yes,..I tried hard thru pg 7) I was giving SSE the benefit of the doubt but he let me down. No answers....just sounded like the same post in not so many different words. Sorry, SSE...looks like you lost a lot of face. I have not read the BB thread and do not intend to as was stated previously by another poster, too much BS and it looks like it carried over to this board. sad.....so, so sad.

"Don't look at me, Little Puppet!"

[g_lee]

Originally Posted by SupremeSportsEnhancements

I just gave away FREE product because I dont understand marketing 101 and have yet to understand how to actually SELL product

there fixed it for ya

[SupremeSportsEnhancements]

I DONT EVEN HAVE A FADOGIA PRODUCT**

I am being attacked for stating the FACTS about an HERB and you are attacking me because you SELL IT.

You guys are ridiculous. Fadogia has ONE SINGLE STUDY and all of you companies start going CRAZY for it. You have no human data, heck, you didnt even KNOW WHAT THE ACTIVES WERE UNTIL I POSTED THEM ON BB.COM TODAY!

I will not be censored, I have done nothing wrong. You have resorted to personal attacks, I really can not believe the level of disrespect being shown to a SPONSOR.

[swolloniron]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

This is hardly the case and we both know that is true. There is a reason you have been stripped as a sponsor at various places since you started this nonsense. There is a reason I am short with you - you KNOW nothing about science and that has been shown time and time again. Now, you have plagued places that allow you to still post (not many at this point, but there are still a few) - and posted multiple threads to the same BS.




I beg you to prove this. For everyone reading this, understand ONE thing. TRUE FADOGIA can be found in ONE PLACE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, it comes as a bark to you from supply-side and must be treated and crushed down. This guy is explaining an specialized super-duper extract and we have shown time and time again that the studies of pertinence use what we say rather than the nonsense he is trying to use to pre-market his bull.




Tisk, its a shame you didn't read the Primal Male write-up before making comments.




Again, I would be wary about saying something you have no intimate knowledge of. I have yet to suggest lawsuit (really), BUT many other companies have. I would encourage you to re-word this statement and I am NOT KIDDING.




Again, I will give you a chance to re-state your current offering. The stem is what has to be crushed down; but I would presume you know that and have quality sourcing. C'mon, if anyone is still buying this guys trash...




Actually my annoyance - this attitude has been your defense.

Again, I tried to deal with you cordially over at bb.com and linked it in here. If people are ever really enticed to see what has went down, it is there for all to see.

NOW, this particular statement is complete slander. I am willing to bet you don't want to do this really.


D_

OK, since I decided I had a right to open my big mouth I concluded the least I could do was read the thread at bb.com. It is less like reading and more like feeling your mind melt...but in the end I agree with Dinoiii...this stuff has been beat to a pulp. Sorry I even mentioned discussing it further.

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

Actually ... GET THIS:


"IF" he decides to update his androgenerator (*hehe, featuring CEE), it would of course be super-duperly, the bestest stuff on da Earth brother. Like for real - its "da sauce" yo!


So - how long before it hits his product?


Hmmmm... don't know - I had to give him the explanation of why when white cells increase, it doesn't mean he should abandon the idea yesterday, because just as all saponins aren't the same - neither are all white cells. But, anyone would know that, .... right?


D_

Actually, the correct spelling in this context (bolded) would be "urf". You get charity points for trying, though.

[thesinner]

While I really don't much care either way, and pardon my ignorance (I haven't been following the drama), but how exactly are we determining said "active compounds".

As SSE has pointed out, there has only been ONE study done on this compound with positive results......well, I'm looking at the full text of that study right now (Musa Toyin Yakubu, Musbau Adewumi Akanji, Adenike Temidayo Oladiji). No where does it make mention of an active compound or a standardization. The argument being made seems to be that there is no standardization for the active compounds; however, according to the research which shows the compound to be effective, there is no active compound to be standardized for.


By the way, 6-keto-diosgenin is not the same compound as 25R-diol. I would enjoy not receiving PM's from other users saying you've told them otherwise.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by SupremeSportsEnhancements

The bottom line is that these supplement companies are not held accountable for lying to the consumer.

did you mean lies like

"- Prevent HTPA Shutdown - " from the Androgenerator pages?

Do you have some evidence that shows that? because the medical community would be really interested in it if it was true, considering that there aren't any prescription compounds that can accomplish this. Plus steroid users around the globe would also be interested, if there was proof...

Just to be clear here, I think your androgenerator does sound like a valuable test booster and I have a bottle that I ordered to try, but making crazy claims like that is irresponsible. I hope we don't see any 21 year old kids wrecking their hormone system by believing that and not doing a reasonable PCT after a cycle of something harsh.

i've used T-force, and found it to work better than any previous trib based booster i've tried. They have spent the money to figure out what works and have blood tests to prove it, so just because they don't word the label the way you'd like them to, or disclose the information so it can be easily cloned doesn't mean its ineffective. The same is true for Get Diesel products, he specifically avoids that as anyone can contract out to get stuff put in caps and in a bottle and throw their label on it. Then all it takes is generating some excitement to start sales rolling...


And gixxer, I dunno if there is anything to understand. It seems that his main purpose is just to make sure enough people hear his company name and talk about him. The lineup looks pretty good, but the attitude is out of whack. Its a pity, but any publicity is good publicity.

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

did you mean lies like

"- Prevent HTPA Shutdown - " from the Androgenerator pages?

Do you have some evidence that shows that? because the medical community would be really interested in it if it was true, considering that there aren't any prescription compounds that can accomplish this. Plus steroid users around the globe would also be interested, if there was proof...

Just to be clear here, I think your androgenerator does sound like a valuable test booster and I have a bottle that I ordered to try, but making crazy claims like that is irresponsible. I hope we don't see any 21 year old kids wrecking their hormone system by believing that and not doing a reasonable PCT after a cycle of something harsh.

i've used T-force, and found it to work better than any previous trib based booster i've tried. They have spent the money to figure out what works and have blood tests to prove it, so just because they don't word the label the way you'd like them to, or disclose the information so it can be easily clon