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Alright guys, I am currently taking:

AST Sports Science Multi Pro 32X - 1 Cap AM / PM
Spring Valley Omega 3 Fish Oil - 1 Cap AM / Mid-Day / PM after meals
Fast Action Liquabolix

I am trying to cut down about 10-15 lbs of fat over the next 3 months. I have a full bottle of USP Labs Cialabol and a tub of $13 Body Fortress Creatine Powder. Should I take one of these creatines pre-workout while I am cutting?

Supplement Facts on the Body Fortress Creatine:

Calories: 150
Total Carbs: 33g
Sugars: 33g
Triple Creatine Matrix - Creatine Monohydrate, Creatine Ester Phosphate, Creatine Ethyl Ester - 6119mg
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NOS Xtreme Blend - L-Arginine, L-Arginine Alpha Keto Glutarate - 1094mg
Stevia Extract (leaf) - 68mg

Supplement Facts on USP Labs Cialabol:

Creatine Ethyl Ester
Banaba Extract
Luteolin

Amount Per Serving........1250mg

I thought you were supposed to dose around 6g of creatine.....why does Cialabol have so little? Any thoughts would be great! I workout in about 2 hours, so any insight before then would be appreciated!
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well for one, Creatine Ethyl Ester is a complete garbage product.
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Alright guys, I am currently taking:

AST Sports Science Multi Pro 32X - 1 Cap AM / PM
Spring Valley Omega 3 Fish Oil - 1 Cap AM / Mid-Day / PM after meals
Fast Action Liquabolix

I am trying to cut down about 10-15 lbs of fat over the next 3 months. I have a full bottle of USP Labs Cialabol and a tub of $13 Body Fortress Creatine Powder. Should I take one of these creatines pre-workout while I am cutting?

Supplement Facts on the Body Fortress Creatine:

Calories: 150
Total Carbs: 33g
Sugars: 33g
Triple Creatine Matrix - Creatine Monohydrate, Creatine Ester Phosphate, Creatine Ethyl Ester - 6119mg
BCAA Nitro Blend - Taurine, Leucine, Isolecuine, Valine, N-Acetyl Cysteine - 2063mg
NOS Xtreme Blend - L-Arginine, L-Arginine Alpha Keto Glutarate - 1094mg
Stevia Extract (leaf) - 68mg

Supplement Facts on USP Labs Cialabol:

Creatine Ethyl Ester
Banaba Extract
Luteolin

Amount Per Serving........1250mg

I thought you were supposed to dose around 6g of creatine.....why does Cialabol have so little? Any thoughts would be great! I workout in about 2 hours, so any insight before then would be appreciated!
I usually say nix on the sugar that goes along with the first product you listed (33g sugar) - depends what diet form you follow though. With some of the low-carb'ers, you might get shot for suggesting that

IMO you would want more than ~1g of creatine per day, even with CEE's 'promises' (not many of which I really even believe). I don't know the product, USP Labs is the people who came out with the Anabolic Pump yadda yadda? I don't really know what Cialabol is - or what it is supposed to do, so I won't consider how to use it (I don't really feel like reading through their stuff with my magical decrypter ring right now).

If you want to take the $13 creatine, I'd just go ahead and do preworkout meal, workout, then do PWO with that + your protein (substitute that in as a carbohydrate source) - assuming that will work for you. It's not really too relevant WHEN you take your creatine, it just puts that sugar to some form of use.
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Alright guys, I am currently taking:

AST Sports Science Multi Pro 32X - 1 Cap AM / PM
Spring Valley Omega 3 Fish Oil - 1 Cap AM / Mid-Day / PM after meals
Fast Action Liquabolix

I am trying to cut down about 10-15 lbs of fat over the next 3 months. I have a full bottle of USP Labs Cialabol and a tub of $13 Body Fortress Creatine Powder. Should I take one of these creatines pre-workout while I am cutting?

Supplement Facts on the Body Fortress Creatine:

Calories: 150
Total Carbs: 33g
Sugars: 33g
Triple Creatine Matrix - Creatine Monohydrate, Creatine Ester Phosphate, Creatine Ethyl Ester - 6119mg
BCAA Nitro Blend - Taurine, Leucine, Isolecuine, Valine, N-Acetyl Cysteine - 2063mg
NOS Xtreme Blend - L-Arginine, L-Arginine Alpha Keto Glutarate - 1094mg
Stevia Extract (leaf) - 68mg

Supplement Facts on USP Labs Cialabol:

Creatine Ethyl Ester
Banaba Extract
Luteolin

Amount Per Serving........1250mg

I thought you were supposed to dose around 6g of creatine.....why does Cialabol have so little? Any thoughts would be great! I workout in about 2 hours, so any insight before then would be appreciated!
You want to be going into your workout on an empty stomach especially when cutting, the sugar in the first product will jack your insulin up, when insulin is up, lipolysis (fat loss) is down, insulin blunts fat burning in the body, so not a very good product

The USPlab product looks like something to take before your meals of the day, has some insulin modulators in it, wouldn't expect much from the CEE. I would NOT take this product pre-workout, it works to lower your insulin when the workout itself already lowers insulin, the combo of the two can leave you dizzy, nauseous (spelling?), etc.
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Eh I guess I will just stick with Liquabolix for now. Is there anything that would be GOOD to take with Liquabolix? Maybe Incarnate?
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Eh I guess I will just stick with Liquabolix for now. Is there anything that would be GOOD to take with Liquabolix? Maybe Incarnate?
I don't even know what liquabolix is

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Well, as long as we're posting pictures for no other reason than to post them...






Can you link us to the Liquibolix stuff?
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Serving Size3Capsules
Servings Per Container 30
Vitamin B3 (Niacin) 8mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCL) 10mg
Sesame Seed Oil (100% Concentration) 1234mg

Liquabolix™ (Liquid Metabolic Base) 591mg
Caffeine Anhydrous USP 99%, Citrus Aurantium 30% Advantra Z™, Ginger Root Extract (20% Gingerols), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Yohimbe Extract (8% Yohimbine), Capsaicin Extract (Cayenne), Phenylethylamine HCL, Velvet Bean Extract (40% L-Dopa), Pure E&Z Guggulsterones 95%, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Black Pepper Extract 95% Bioperine™, 3,5 Diiodo L-Tyrosine

Liquabolix™ (Metabolic/Antioxidant Tea Complex) 150mg
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Can you link us to the Liquibolix stuff?
Totally hijacking this thread...but these things were all over boston one night..people thought they were BOMBS!!! Boston police / bombsquad EVERYWHERE causing all sorts of havoc on the streets, it was a sight.
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Totally hijacking this thread...but these things were all over boston one night..people thought they were BOMBS!!! Boston police / bombsquad EVERYWHERE causing all sorts of havoc on the streets, it was a sight.
Speaking of havoc I would love to have a few bottles