Enteric coated creatine

[GeneGnome]

Originally Posted by B-natural

So, all well and good, you found the word creatine, jumped to monohyrdate, then bashed the product.

YOU mentioned creatine monohyrdate, where we even speciy we haven't included CEE or KA, and make NO mention of CM as we understand its 99% absorption rate. There is no mention of the specific creatine that loses absorption, just that some forms can degrade rapidly within the first two hours after ingestion.

As for the enteric coating, several studies support its use to allow better stability when passing through the GI tract to aid in absorption and limit degradation.

There is barely a gram of creatine per serving in here because you use different salts, with will have little difference in bioavailability anyway (since CM is already almost 100%).

Whoever wrote the writeup doesn't seem to understand CM's high absorption or that there is little conversion to creatinine in the stomach.

Thus, creatine does not need to be enteric coated, and you can't be sure the coat breaks down in the appropriate place and all is absorbed anyway.

It is unnecessary expense. CM is used in research and is effective and safe. Side effects are usually because of unnecessary high doses (only 3-4 grams for most people is sufficient).

[GeneGnome]

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

Excuse me?

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by GeneGnome

Excuse me?

what? did you fart??

LOL let me egg on the fight damn it

[LLLLern]

wow!

[B-natural]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

I think he was saying, why use creatine with an enteric coating when monohydrate already has a good absorption rating.

CM is tried and true and everyone knows that, MST isn't a bulk seller, so there's no need to slap a sticker on 500g's of CM for us. Cutting edge ingredients and absorption aids has been the focus at MST.

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

cuz CM sucks balls

CEE does, CM is still tried and true, way to throw logs on the fire...

Originally Posted by GeneGnome

There is barely a gram of creatine per serving in here because you use different salts, with will have little difference in bioavailability anyway (since CM is already almost 100%).

Whoever wrote the writeup doesn't seem to understand CM's high absorption or that there is little conversion to creatinine in the stomach.

Thus, creatine does not need to be enteric coated, and you can't be sure the coat breaks down in the appropriate place and all is absorbed anyway.

It is unnecessary expense. CM is used in research and is effective and safe. Side effects are usually because of unnecessary high doses (only 3-4 grams for most people is sufficient).

CM's absorption is very well known, especially after the ISSN conference. The person that wrote the writeup understands this clearly, BUT CM wasn't used in this and CM idn't exactly the hot item, but it is the old standard for those that trry new creatines and end up turning back to good ole CM because it works. Trying new formulas, with absorption aids, and different coatings because certain forms of creatine DO degrade rapidly. I don't know why you assume the word creatine directly relates to creatine monohydrate. When someone says he's hittin up some test do you directly assume he's using cyp? No, everyone has their own different form, each with it's own different benefit.

Stop throwin logs on the fire RA, thats how things get sky high when they don't need to, lol.

[B-natural]

Let's all know that I'm not pissed, nor should I be, questions do arise, as they should about EVERY supplement on the market. If not there would be plenty of supplements that would have stuck around quite a bit o' time after they were due to drop off the shelves. This keeps things fresh, if you listen to everything you see and assume all is well and good, this industry is not the place you want to be, research research research....

Good stuff so far, this keeps me active and on my toes, i like it (in all seriousness too, no pun intended either, keep it up)

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by B-natural

Stop throwin logs on the fire RA, thats how things get sky high when they don't need to, lol.

hahahah bro... dog, b-man... I couldnt resist... LOL

[B-natural]

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

hahahah bro... dog, b-man... I couldnt resist... LOL

I am llllerning, so lets not fuel things too much, I have some research, but don't have access to the big dawgs of pubmed and the like for full backing... just google and abstracts

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by B-natural

I am llllerning, so lets not fuel things too much, I have some research, but don't have access to the big dawgs of pubmed and the like for full backing... just google and abstracts

lol I know bro, I just missed all this crazy drama while I was gone... hahah