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Old 09-07-2008, 03:21 PM   #11
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Thank you so much for the information guys. I'm a little concerned about the "steroid" aspect I gotta say. Would this show up on a test ( as in dqing me from a fight)??? Umm not a street fight hehe but an MMA tournament? Royce Gracie tested + for steroids in January and was dq'ed.

Aso, any MORE advice on PCT usage would be appreciated. Like I said when I did Andro some years ago I got up near 200lbs but didn't do a PCT. I'm not going to be stupid about it again.

After reading a bit more and researching I was looking at using Novodex XT by Gaspari as part of my PCT. They sell this at GNC which often translates into "waste of money." I've found GNC is great for things like Muscle Milk or Creatine but falls short on more heavy duty products. I mean weren't they championing ZMA as the ultimate "safe" anabolic a few years back?? Or their weight gainers with 50g of simple carbs? Kinda sheisty.

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Old 09-08-2008, 12:11 AM   #12
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Ali, please read the PCT Layman's Terms link in my signature before contemplating this cycle further.

Also note that you will not pop for an epithio based product.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:43 AM   #13
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Thanks but clicking on your PCT link gives:

"Sorry, 'http' does not exist or is not available."

Broken link maybe? Let me know I'd love to read it.

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Thanks but clicking on your PCT link gives:

"Sorry, 'http' does not exist or is not available."

Broken link maybe? Let me know I'd love to read it.

Cheers,
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go to the PCT section, it's a sticky there.
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Thanks but clicking on your PCT link gives:

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Broken link maybe? Let me know I'd love to read it.

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:46 PM   #16
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Thanks RisingAgainst and Meksi. No offence Meksi, but looking at your picture on your avatar makes me think you may need some work on your biceps. Just a friendly suggestion. Great pec work though!

I'm waiting on my Havoc now. It's been a week since I ordered from NUTRAPLANET.

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After reading a bit more and researching I was looking at using Novodex XT by Gaspari as part of my PCT. They sell this at GNC which often translates into "waste of money." I've found GNC is great for things like Muscle Milk or Creatine but falls short on more heavy duty products. I mean weren't they championing ZMA as the ultimate "safe" anabolic a few years back?? Or their weight gainers with 50g of simple carbs? Kinda sheisty.

Best,
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Also since nobody mentioned it check out the LeanBulk Store. 9 times out of 10 (probably 10 for 10) the price on things is going to be cheaper even with shipping then GNC. Their mark up is crazy!
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Thanks again. It looks like my climb isn't as steep as I thought. I apparently do not weigh 155lbs. I'm a nice 167lbs. I weighed 162 before I left LA to come to NY for a few months starting in July. In New York I didn't weigh myself until a few weeks ago. I just lifted at the gym like I normally do without caring about weight. I weighed myself 2 weeks ago and saw I was 155lbs. I'm getting pretty lean and defined so I figured I just trimmed down 7 pounds and didn't question it. Last night I decided to weight myself to get an estimate before I started the bulk. I was 150lbs. A little strange. Today after Jiu-Jitsu I came home and was 145lbs. Okay unless someone's stealing organs from me in my sleep this is crazy. So I went to the gym, hopped on the scale and was a nice 167lbs. Whew. My goal of 180lbs is well within reach. That'll put me only 10 shy of what I once was. This was like a Xmas present.

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