My first RPN Havoc cycle

[BB12]

Use one scale to take your weight and only that scale.
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[Djinn]

Greasy hair, oily skin, JACKED strength. Yup, Havoc's as close to a steroid as possible. LoL. But I'm not getting any of the other sides. The ride after week 1 has been super smooth. I've been taking all the support supps and treating it carefully, going slow. This week I'm going to go up from 20 mg a day to 30. I've been on a strict diet of lean meats, low glycemic carbs, and fruits&vegetables and I've gained 5lbs in the first week. I doubt its fat considering I'm keeping up with the martial arts and running I do.

Best,
Ali

[Right Hook]

Wow great progress in one week. Good to hear.

[kplayon]

I'm bout to run a Havoc cycle myself

[Djinn]

What's even more amazing is I'm not getting lethargic, no pains either. So far no back pumps, no pulled muscles (anabolics weaken tendons causing pulls/tears which is one reason many atheletes on the juice are so injury prone - funny how the "drug free" Mr. Bonds was never injured much until AFTER he got enormous). I'm not even having any urinary type issues. Even creatine used to mess up my system (spontaneous needs to pee etc). It's still early so in 2 weeks we'll see if this is a dream come true experience or a nightmare waiting in the dark.

Best,
Ali

[BB12]

5lbs in a week is pretty sweet
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[Djinn]

Good news and bad news after week 2. I'm bummed. So no ill side effects at all, which is great. The 5lbs I gained stayed steady and my lifts increased so it isnt fat or water weight. I've also gotten more defined. The bad news and the reason I'm bummed is well 5 lbs after 2 weeks still and the strength gains are minimal. I've gone up to 30mg from 20 mg lately and hope if it'll make a difference after a week. When I did andro a long time ago I recall inhuman gains in the first 3 weeks. But I also recall bad acne and temper flares neither of which I've gotten on Havoc.

Best,
Ali

[temper35]

Originally Posted by Djinn

Thank you so much for the information guys. I'm a little concerned about the "steroid" aspect I gotta say. Would this show up on a test ( as in dqing me from a fight)??? Umm not a street fight hehe but an MMA tournament? Royce Gracie tested + for steroids in January and was dq'ed.

Aso, any MORE advice on PCT usage would be appreciated. Like I said when I did Andro some years ago I got up near 200lbs but didn't do a PCT. I'm not going to be stupid about it again.

After reading a bit more and researching I was looking at using Novodex XT by Gaspari as part of my PCT. They sell this at GNC which often translates into "waste of money." I've found GNC is great for things like Muscle Milk or Creatine but falls short on more heavy duty products. I mean weren't they championing ZMA as the ultimate "safe" anabolic a few years back?? Or their weight gainers with 50g of simple carbs? Kinda sheisty.

Best,
Ali

It is likely you'd fail a drug test.

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by temper35

It is likely you'd fail a drug test.

ERRRRR wrong.

[Djinn]

Ok last week I complained about slow growth. Wellll that's history. I gained another 3lbs. making my total gains on Havoc so far 8lbs. BUT my strength gains are RIDICULOUS. Back when I was close to 190lbs., 5 years ago my best on bench was 250lbs. 6 times. Now at 175lbs. I got 210 for a smooth 6 reps (not the kind where my spotter also gets a good trap workout). I'm not there yet, but its a leap closer than where I was weeks ago. I won't even talk about my leg press gains, no one here would believe me. I'm not looking forward to my PCT as I'm scared I'll lose a lot. I've also achieved amazing vascularity and definition. I hope Reversitol or Sustain Alpha (still haven't decided) doesn't let me down.

Best,
Ali