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No way in hell I am waking up every 2 hours.
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Ah, I see. Yes if you are needing to wake up every two hours like that, then I do agree that WMS isn't a half bad source. The dextrose rollercoaster is just not pleasant IMO.
Definitely, I can only handle so much dextrose before I start feeling like shiznit
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No way in hell I am waking up every 2 hours.
lmao I don't do it either, its just a 'option' you have, some feel it provides better carb supercompensation.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:24 PM   #15
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You need to look at your carbs kind of like you look at your proteins. You have your Isolate's "Extremely Processed Protein" fast delivery. Just like you have your Vitargo / Karbolyn "Extremely Processed Carbs" fast delivery. WMS usually isn't processed to the degree of the Vitargo / Karbolyn hince the reason it is a chalky powder. There has been a few studies on high processed carbs "unfortunetly not enough yet" that show the benefits.

See here http://www.vitargo.com/PDF/VitargoMaltMaxEnd07.pdf

I honesty can feel the processed carbs working, my muscles swell, when taking them post-workout "it can be a crazy feeling sometimes". This tells me they are being saturated with any supplements that I included with them, and should in return speed up my recovery time and help my muslces grow. This really depends on your daily carb intake though. I personally beleive the majority of your carb intake, should be taken around the period of your workout time, and you should fuel your workout's with the cleanest carbs you can get. If you have never experienced processed carbs, please give me a shout, and i'll see what i can do for ya.
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great thread .. i have never tried WMS myself ..but im leaning towards getting it .. more questions for people ..

can WMS be mixed in say gatorade or so(pre workout & post workout) ? bc i need to lay off whey for couple of months ..and thinking of trying WMS in the meantime.

or does it work better when mixed in with more carbs ?

thanks
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You need to look at your carbs kind of like you look at your proteins. You have your Isolate's "Extremely Processed Protein" fast delivery. Just like you have your Vitargo / Karbolyn "Extremely Processed Carbs" fast delivery. WMS usually isn't processed to the degree of the Vitargo / Karbolyn hince the reason it is a chalky powder. There has been a few studies on high processed carbs "unfortunetly not enough yet" that show the benefits.

See here http://www.vitargo.com/PDF/VitargoMaltMaxEnd07.pdf

I honesty can feel the processed carbs working, my muscles swell, when taking them post-workout "it can be a crazy feeling sometimes". This tells me they are being saturated with any supplements that I included with them, and should in return speed up my recovery time and help my muslces grow. This really depends on your daily carb intake though. I personally beleive the majority of your carb intake, should be taken around the period of your workout time, and you should fuel your workout's with the cleanest carbs you can get. If you have never experienced processed carbs, please give me a shout, and i'll see what i can do for ya.
Ive been interested in giving this a shot, it was either you or some other rep for your company that said for me to PM my addy and they would send me a sample, never got one
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Old 09-22-2008, 04:46 PM   #18
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waxy maize is far superior to all the others,

with the high molecular weight comes faster gastric emptying. the problem with mixing it with protein powder, is that it makes vaxymaize less effective thus really giving no reason to use it.

if you use waxymaize with BCAAs its a completly different story


the whole fact behind it is that because of the faster gastric emptying you will not feel any bloat and hardly any crash.
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I am also doing a CKD by dinoiii and after that friday I have a PWO shake with VitargoS2 and whey along with an apple. There was a thread over on dinoiii's forum awhile back and he recommended Vitargo for another person. That is a great glycogen fill up, especially after a depletion workout.
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great thread .. i have never tried WMS myself ..but im leaning towards getting it .. more questions for people ..

can WMS be mixed in say gatorade or so(pre workout & post workout) ? bc i need to lay off whey for couple of months ..and thinking of trying WMS in the meantime.

or does it work better when mixed in with more carbs ?

thanks
Swapping WMS for whey doesn't make a lot of sense IMO. You're swapping out your protein source for a carbohydrate source? If anything, WMS is the replacement for the gatorade. Then you are swapping amylopectin for maltodextrin (largely - if you are buying the powdered).
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