Which Creatine is best?

[testotony]

I used creatine years ago but now they have so many types out.
Which is best and why between:
Creatine Ethyl Ester
Creatine Monohydrate
Creatine Gluconate

I tend to hold water easily so I would like to avoid that as much as possible.

Thanks!

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by testotony

I used creatine years ago but now they have so many types out.
Which is best and why between:
Creatine Ethyl Ester
Creatine Monohydrate
Creatine Gluconate

I tend to hold water easily so I would like to avoid that as much as possible.

Thanks!

The 'best' creatine is the one with the most supported track record both in the real world and within the science realm with studies and such, i.e, creatine monohydrate.

However theres many forms many like such as the ones you have listed. I personally like using pure creatine monohydrate, magnesium creatine chelate (CL green magnitude), and creatine orotate, such as in MAN Sports Clout.

[B-natural]

Pure crea mono is good, MST sells CRE-02 which is a really good creatine product, and has some good absorption aids as well as other goodies along with it.

As for the water, well, with creatine, thats one of its main effects is water retention, if you don't want it take some find an ethyl ester version (lol)

[bumpy11]

I take AST miscronized creatine mono.

I only taken it a few weeks so to early to tell. I do agree with CM or the ester version though which is what most of the other members suggest.

what i would do is use a simple suger like dextrose which will spike your insulin levels and help shuttle more creatine in to the muscle cells.

Or some others will take after a meal or even protein dink will raise you insulin levels enough to get more out of your creatine mono.

[broken7]

Creapure creatine mono, take with grape juice for maximum effect. Increased muscle hydration is one of the best benefits from creatine.

[DANISH VIKING]

When I use, its Creatine Monohydrate,but feel like some steps of dehydration,have now red that Creatine can "take" as mutch as 2- 5 Liters of fluid,from the body to the muscles.
(so Important to drink A LOT!! when using/cycling creatine).

[Wild Coyote]

Personally I have always seen the best results with creatine monohydrate

[bumpy11]

Hi,

I just purchased some Mans Clout Creatine.

I plan on rotating between AST micronised creatine and MAN CLOUT for workout days.
does anyone have any experience with this product.

I have read quite a few good reviews hence why i bought this but would like to know of other views and opinions.

[mvasquez830]

I take Green Mag. from magnesium creatine chelate worked great for me. Also, Creatine Ethyl Ester gave me an energy boost, I recommend both type of creatine. Have taken creatine monohydrate and did nothing.

[Right Hook]

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Creatine Ethyl Ester Gets Kicked In The Nuts … Again!
December 18, 2008
It seems our last post on how Creatine Ethyl Ester breaks down into Creatinine faster than ordinary Creatine Monohydrate, got plenty of attention from the supplement industry. In fact, we set an all-time record for the most hits we’ve ever received in one day! We even had the world famous chemist Patrick Arnold comment on the post. Here’s what The Chemist had to say:
“Creatine ethyl ester is very water soluble. This is a very positive thing in regards to intestinal absorption. However it will increase its susceptibility to hydrolysis. creatine monohydrate OTOH has very poor water solubility. This makes its intestinal absorption somewhat poor. However it also means it will be more resistant to hydrolysis. There are many factors to analyze before you can determine which form of creatine is a better performance enhancer.” - Patrick Arnold
Very well put and few men are as qualified to make that call as Patrick is. Here’s what Dr. Mark Tallon also had to say about Creatine Ethyl Ester. Keep in mind that Dr. Tallon holds a degree in exercise physiology, a Masters degree in nutritional science and a PhD in nutritional biochemistry. He has also worked with world-renowned creatine research Professor Roger Harris. Ya, the guy knows what the fuck he’s taking about!
“We found that the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine,” says Tallon. “This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form, which makes creatine ethyl-ester inferior to creatine monohydrate as a source of creatine.”
If that’s not a big enough kick in the nuts for Creatine Ethyl Ester, let’s see what Dr. Robert Child has to say about it. Dr. Child has a PhD in physiology and biochemistry and has nearly 10 years experience conducting government and industry funded research studies evaluating the safety and efficacy of dietary supplements.
“To date, no published study has shown that creatine ethyl-ester works any better than regular creatine … In fact, our work shows that it’s less stable. Anyone should think twice about spending their money on this type of product.”
Original Research Abstract
For those that want to see the original research abstract for more proof, here ya go!
Child R1 and Tallon MJ2. Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid. 1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom.
Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM. This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (Creapure®). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1°C and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV). After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120 minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM. CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.
This research was presented at the 4th Annual International Society of Sports Nutrition Conference (Las Vegas, USA).

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