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Old 05-11-2009, 04:11 PM   #1
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You guys ever heard of those prohormones? theyre made by rockhard formulations. The extreme nutrition store by my house has them, and the guys theyre told me to stack the two. since im looking for lean gains which is the Equitren, along with some mass gains as well.. I want some size added.. Thats where the Boldermeth steps in. I've looked into plenty more prohormones, and these sound pretty good. You guys have any better suggestions? or feed on those supplements for those that have taken them before. thankyou
Old 05-11-2009, 10:26 PM   #2
 
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First, what is your PH/DS experience? Stacking products is for more advanced users.
Second, be careful in taking suggestions from guys in most supp stores, they are out to make a buck and will sell you on usually either expensive stuff or more than likely what they get the biggest commission on. Not always but always be weary.

Here are your products:

Equitren
150mg of 14AD - Bold compound
30mg of Estra-4,9-diene-3, 17-dione - "Tren" compound

Boldermeth:

M,14ADD - Dbol like DS, aromatizes and is methylated

Stacking these is not a problem really if you are a more advanced user. Three compound stacks are not the best type to begin with. The Boldermeth is the only aromatizing DS/PH out there and provides good gains but is usually very wet.

The Equitren is a nonmethyl stack that is decent except for the 1,4AD (They list it as 14AD and it confused me for a sec lol) is dosed at 150mg and most people run longer cycles (6-8 weeks) at 600-800mg. In doing that you are looking at a pretty hefty dose of Tren.

When you let me know your age and experience I will be able to give you some suggestions.
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What he said, and to add, both of those supplements by Rockhard are great.
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i agree with grambo .. although when u do run equitren ..3caps = 90mg tren + 450mg bold ..that is plenty to see gains.. only problem is, i dont like tren running over 5weeks .. and bold really kicks in 2-3rd week ..so i would stay away from that combination.

i like boldermeth
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Well, im really into the equitren. i like what use of it is for, cause i mostly want lean mass other than be big. i wanna have the ripped look, but want a little size as well - thats the only reason why i looked into the boldermeth and was thinking about stacking the two.

im about 25, and have been lifting for quite a while. i took mdrol once, 1 pill a day for 30 days and saw big gains in mass, gained about 25 pounds.. but it wasnt dry, more wet, so i had the big apperance but mushy muscles. after that i took a cycle of halocore, 1 pill a day for 30 days. i didnt really know the doseing scheme so i decided to do the same thing i did with M. i took 6-oxo for my first off cycle with the m. then i took novadex for the 2nd off cycle with halocore. id say i waited a year in beetween both cycles. you guys have any other ideal prohormnes that would give me the same results im looking for, if not better... but both healthy at the same time
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"Healthy" is a really relative term with PH/DS useage.

H-drol did wonders for me and I loved it. It would do what you are wanting I think. It needs to be run minumum 50 but 75-100mg is the sweet spot. You wasted a lot only doing one pill unfortunately. Could also look into Epistane/Havoc for lean strength gains. Bolder Meth is a good supp but it will give you water retention and not look lean I can almost gurantee you that. The Equitren is actually pretty nice looking product and would provide lean gains, but as mentioned Bold is run a while and tren should prob not be run past 5 weeks.
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enlighten ur self on ph/ds please read and research them b4 u just start takin srs also read on proper post cycle therapy because with a cycle of equitren id say u need a SERM not novadex or 6oxo...just my $.02 goodluck with it bro
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I have looked alot into the supplements, and im trying to learn everything i can, when I took the other two p/h's i didnt know anything.. And then i started looking into them and realized i took them wrong and whatever it is. So the equitren is a forsure then. I also know friends that take equitren for like a 6-8 week period... But nothing else. Idk if that is exactly healthy or not.. But they see lots of results from that. I'll look into the H-Drol.

Equitren is for lean gains, but I want to add some size. You say the boldermeth wont provide dry gains and will keep you a little soft- Thats not what I want. I've also looked into Granite X. what do you guys think?
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Granite X is Superdrol clone and you said you felt soft on it as well. Which is not what I usually hear but some people react differently.
The best gains have to be run with Equitren 6-8 weeks but that is pushing it with tren IMO. But if you had some good on cycle supprt (mainly BP and cholesterol) and a good PCT (IMO SERM) then you should be good to go. I don't get you I want lean gains and size whats the difference? Put on a lot of lean gains and you will have size, and mostly muscle.
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rockhard has some great stuff

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