7-oxo HTPA Suppresive?

[swolloniron]

Hey, just trying to get a little info. I have read various speculation that 7-oxo is suppressive on the HTPA and should not be used in PCT.

Anyone confirm/deny?

If it IS suppressive, then what sort of PCT (for the 7-oxo) is required (ie if using as stand alone)?

OK lastly, I am using Dermabolics Metacort (6-oxo/7-oxo) and have noticed slight/mild testicular shrinkage. Typically when I take 6-oxo orally, my nuts plump up (sounds good eh) during PCT or as stand alone. Any thoughts?

DermaBolics Metacort, 8 oz

[swolloniron]

bump

[B-natural]

Isn't 6 oxo a suicide inhibitor? so you are still eliminating estro with no test boost?

7oxo isn't suppressive to my knowledge....

[Badsanta488]

Originally Posted by B-natural

Isn't 6 oxo a suicide inhibitor? so you are still eliminating estro with no test boost?

7oxo isn't suppressive to my knowledge....

yes.

and 7 keto is usually used as pct for a cycle involving the thyroid so i would imagine it is not suppressive of test

[littlrook]

i was undetr the impression the 7 was not supressive also. you could switch out for some formedex. i used it for about a month and noticed no signs of shrinkage or shutdown. doesd at 75mg a day

[B-natural]

Another thought is that its transdermal, so depending on how well the solution is mixed, the dose could be all over the place.

[littlrook]

ah very true, never thought of that. they always claim it's a standard mg/pump. how can that be so though?

[B-natural]

Originally Posted by littlrook

ah very true, never thought of that. they always claim it's a standard mg/pump. how can that be so though?

its far from it, even if you shake the shite out of it, just look when you get to the bottom of the bottle and what fell out of solution. it seems like it gets better towards the end because theres a better concentration of product in the small amount of solution.

[Force of Green Labs]

There have been arguments going both ways about this, but when one properly interprets the studies, one is to conclude that there is a drop in estrodiol if anything and which in turn (Dr. Houser goes to say) will increase the gonadatropins.

[Patman]

From past experiences using 7-oxo, the old Dermabolics 7-cort that is, I never experienced any sign of HTPA suppressiveness. If anything, I have felt the opposite.