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tramlaw · 06-26-2009, 04:49 AM

I know this is a stupid question, I am sorry if offends anyone. I ordered some halodrol liquigels by gaspari. I am getting ready to end this cycle.( 6 week) My question is, Are these Pro-hormones. The reason I ask is I am plaining on running "The Stack" Stack next and wanted to know how long to wait till I ran it.
I did not want to take any chances with it so I ran it with liv care, and I am running it right now with Inhibit-e as a PCT, just incase it is a pro-hormone.. Any helpful feed back would be nice.

Thanks
Tram.

**rev2217** · 06-26-2009, 10:54 AM

halodrol liquigels are not a ph. they do contain 6 oxo so you need to take a break = to the time of use...imo

If this is something you do not know, then running the 'stack' is a bad idea...also running it for your 1st cycle is a bad idea...it is not candy, and can mess you up if you don't know what you're doing!

Do some research...knowledge is your friend and will help keep you safe where ph/ds are concerned!!!

What are your stats??? Age, weight, lifting exp, goals...ect. We can help you out if you are willing to provide a little info, and are willing to take good advice.

**rev2217** · 06-26-2009, 10:55 AM

...also get off the Inhibit-e...it is not needed, and will do you no good at this point...

Savagebeast · 06-27-2009, 03:48 PM

Hey man yes you can come here and ask plenty questions, but if you continue to ask ones like these some guys on here just like to chew questions from people like you up and enjoy it instead of helping..My advice just go to google and type in whatever you're looking to take first the info on it and read all the stuff the company writes about it..Then if you're interested stay on google type in the name of the product then forums right after it..Any related question to yours on that product will come up in the results from leanbulk forums to bodybuilding to a numerous amount of other forums that have people already asking the same question you have about ur prohormone or supplement..Read every sites question or comment on the product and that WILL help your decision on if that product is right for you..And trust me you will find a similair question to the one you have most of these have already been answered for years now, if you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask.

**Supa-T** · 06-27-2009, 06:29 PM

Running M-Drol and P-Plex for your first PH/PS cycle is not a good idea-I don't care if you ask here or anywhere else. If anybody told you it was okay they are whacked. You will blow up and get nasty strong, but then you will lose it all in PCT-much like running a first time AAS cycle with inadequate PCT (or even adequate this is sometimes the result).
I think rev answered your question appropriately and is looking out for your best interest in all fairness. A really good first run would be H-Drol or E-Stane, or even P-plex solo. You will get similar results with less sides and less possible permanent problems.
Welcome to LB, and a very good question, not a dumb one. But it would be a good idea to come of the Inhibit E asap so as not to crash your libido.

tramlaw · 06-28-2009, 11:54 PM

To answer Rev2217 questions.

Age. 32
Weight. 235 BF around 12-15% just a guess.
Height. 5'10"
lifting now for around 3 yrs.
My goals are just to get stronger, and bigger.. I don't power lift. I don't want to compete. I just enjoy lifting weights..

I have ran pro-hormones before.. The last one ran was H-drol and 1, 4ad stack. I have taken 4 months off for med. reasons. I just ran the gels to start back into the prohormones slowly. I choose those because I like Gaspari products. They work well for me. I just wanted to make sure on how long.

Thanks for all the advice and help on this matter. If there is any additional info. or advice please feel free to add.

**rev2217** · 06-29-2009, 12:38 AM

How did you like the h-drol and 1, 4ad stack?

H-drol is good for lean mass...and dropping bf. An h-drol combo...h-drol and tren (Hema-Tren), h-drol and phera-plex (Alpha Tren by RSS)...would be good for strength and lean gains. The Alpha Tren might be a bit too much for a seconed cycle. The phera can be pretty strong...might try it at 1 cap per day.

Also Epistane...ran solo might be a good choice.

Just remember...with ph's more isn't always better...

Let us know what you come up with bro!!!