Alpha Drive XL

[transXisomer]

This product is on sale at nutraplanet ($10 bucks), so I was thinking of picking up a bottle. Whats interesting is that the bolded part below, the ADED, has been hypothesized to be a mild prohormone itself. I was thinking that one could run a nice little cycle with this product. One bottle is 4 weeks, 4 weeks with a mild prohormone wont lend itself to any harsh shutdown, but still give a nice little boost in LBM gain, strength gain, muscle hardness / pumps, etc. A cheap bottle of I3C (about $12 bucks most places) thrown in with it to clean up any negative estrogen metabolites and you have a nice mild ph cycle for $18 bucks.

If the ADED isn't a ph, then you just get a nice natural test booster stack.
What you guys think?




http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1...-drive-xl.html

Originally Posted by Alpha Drive XL

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings per Container: 90


Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Proprietary Alpha Drive XL Matrix:
EuryMAX. Proprietary Eurycoma Longifolia Ex, CYP-X. Proprietary Grapefruit Extract, Tribulus Terrestris Proprietary Furostanosides. Extract, Tribubolic. Complex (Protodioscin, Methylprotodioscin, Prototribestan and Methylprototribestan), EuryTEINS. Proprietary Glycoprotein Complex from Eurycoma Longifolia, ADED 305mg **



* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.

OTHER INGREDIENTS: Magnesium stearate, maltodextrin and gelatin capsule

[B-natural]

Doesn;t sound bad, whats the mild ph in it?

it was formulated by ALRI, not sure if that says much, but for the price, it sounds solid.

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by B-natural

Doesn;t sound bad, whats the mild ph in it?

it was formulated by ALRI, not sure if that says much, but for the price, it sounds solid.

The bolded part, the ADED is supposedly 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (6-DMT).

[B-natural]

really, interesting, wonder how high you'd need to or be able to dose this then. Wonder why they are throwing everything in this product.....

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by B-natural

really, interesting, wonder how high you'd need to or be able to dose this then. Wonder why they are throwing everything in this product.....

Im not really sure, hard to tell with the proprietary blend. Reviews ive seen on this product are all really good, speaking of great strength gains and such making me think the ADED dosing is probably good enough for people to be noticing it.

The product itself was always marketed as a test booster, not as a ph, thus why I think it has all that other stuff in it. Can't lose out though, only $10 bucks a bottle. Im thinking of doing what I listed above, Alpha Drive + I3C for a short, mild cycle.

[B-natural]

hmmmm, well if its mild I guess go for it, formestane is supposed to have mild ph like effects while on cycle, may also help you lean out (if needed) also.

[swolloniron]

Alpha Drive XL. is an effective product you can feel from BioScience Technologies that fortifies your body with a very specific and scientifically engineered formula of herbal nutrients to allow your body to achieve a highly optimized male hormonal profile. This entails a strong increase in both one.s total level of Testosterone, THE male hormone, as well as even more importantly, what is known as Free or Unbound Testosterone.

Moreover, Alpha Drive XL. does this by stimulating the HPTA (hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis) thus enabling one to use the product continuously for long term benefit without experiencing any negative feedback signals or diminishment of effect. Furthermore, Alpha Drive XL. also supports decreased estrogen, (which is sadly and commonly too high in most men in today.s society) thereby creating an even more optimized total hormonal milieu for maximum .maleness.

With optimized hormone levels one can add muscle more rapidly and lose body fat more efficiently, especially when coupled with proper diet and exercise. One.s motivation and focus and overall well-being, as well as attitude will improve markedly. And of course, it won.t hurt when it comes to the bedroom either!

More info coming soon.
Product Highlights

* Vitality
* Strength
* Muscularity
* Sexual Prowess & Libido

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings per Container: 90
Amount Per Serving

Proprietary Alpha Drive XL Matrix: EuryMAX. Proprietary Eurycoma Longifolia Ex, CYP-X. Proprietary Grapefruit Extract, Tribulus Terrestris Proprietary Furostanosides. Extract, Tribubolic. Complex (Protodioscin, Methylprotodioscin, Prototribestan and Methylprototribestan), EuryTEINS. Proprietary Glycoprotein Complex from Eurycoma Longifolia, ADED: 305mg
Suggested Use

As a dietary supplement, take one (1) capsule three (3) times daily with food. Do not exceed 8 weeks of continuous use.

[swolloniron]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...-drive-xl.html

Couple intersting statements in this thread:
"ADED = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It has androgenic activity, and should be considered a mild steroid rather than a test booster (even though it posesses some AI activity. It is not ideal for post cycle therapy, as there will be some HTPA supression.

BTW, the jury is not "still out". Its been confirmed to be 6-DMT by both PA and ALRI.

But yeah, for $10 its worth a shot but try using it on cycle rather than post cycle therapy"

Followed by:
"Posted this question at IBE forums directly to the man himself....Dr.D... and he said that he likes ADED in his post cycle therapy and that the amounts in Alpha Drive are trivial anyhow."

[swolloniron]

Anyway, long story short, I am running it with 11-oxo at 6 ED, Alpha drive 4 ED, and 6-oxo Extreme 5 ED.

Some thought to my madness. The suppressive effect of 11-oxo was reported by PA to br "very low at 6 caps a day". Not sure what to make of that, since it is his product, but I thought I would run with it.

Followed up with the confusing nature of ADED...when the unknown threshold is reached changing it form and AI to more of an androgen....I would ASSume that by the write up that says it "...also supports decreased estrogen...", that the levels were still in the AI range.

Ok, so at approx 7 days into the cycle, I was def harder, more dense, mild increased libido, increased nighttime explosions (akla they usually do not occur - the wife finds these very weird esp if we got busy earlier...). No change in weight, no noticeable fat loss, no strength increases (out of proportion with training). All of this things have continued and I am now about to wrap up the second week. BTW did not add the 6-oxo Ex until day 5.

[swolloniron]

Originally Posted by transXisomer

Im not really sure, hard to tell with the proprietary blend. Reviews ive seen on this product are all really good, speaking of great strength gains and such making me think the ADED dosing is probably good enough for people to be noticing it.

The product itself was always marketed as a test booster, not as a ph, thus why I think it has all that other stuff in it. Can't lose out though, only $10 bucks a bottle. Im thinking of doing what I listed above, Alpha Drive + I3C for a short, mild cycle.

I would have to attribute the hardness/fullness to the AD XL, as I have ran the other products before with out noticing this in this time frame. Waiting on those strength gains...