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Djinn · 09-24-2009, 12:41 AM

WHY IS THIS GETTING SO MUCH PRESS LATELY? A ton of new supplements are coming out with this and apparently there is a lot of research being done most of it very positive.

And this Scandinavian company is making headway with it. EISELT RESEARCH

pdelta · 09-28-2009, 04:37 PM

The pressures on supplement companies to clean-up their acts. So they are looking for safe and effect substances. The industry will benefit in the long run.

Djinn · 09-28-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pdelta

The pressures on supplement companies to clean-up their acts. So they are looking for safe and effect substances. The industry will benefit in the long run.

I agree however it bother me since its a ripe market now for scams. Remember the days of Boron being hailed as anabolic or ZMA working as good as prohormones without the sides then there is the ecdysterone craze and of course the Tribulus phenomena. ZMA is the only decent product as far as working out is concerned (getting an erection isnt exactly something I'd want in the gym) out of the above and for sleep induction not getting jacked persay (and yeh sure proper sleep assists growth but I don't see Ambien being pumped as the next great anabolic). The whole plant sterols thing is annoying and they keep promoting it and backing it with more BS in house studies. It's like my GNC rule, unless its a vitamin, protein, or creatine its useless if its sold at GNC.

Cheers,
ali

steam · 09-28-2009, 10:42 PM

isn't the word pretty much that fenugreek is bad due to its progesterone properties?...that the only one worth debate is possibly Testofen...still questionable though

pdelta · 10-05-2009, 09:53 AM

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isn't the word pretty much that fenugreek is bad due to its progesterone properties?...that the only one worth debate is possibly Testofen...still questionable though

What's wrong with progesterone? If you goggle "progesterone for men" you will find that it has no feminizing qualities and is great for the prostate. It converts to testosterone in men (although very low doses) and protects against hair loss.

Force of Green Labs · 10-05-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pdelta

The pressures on supplement companies to clean-up their acts. So they are looking for safe and effect substances. The industry will benefit in the long run.

I'm not pointing fingers, but if these new supplement companies popping up can't produce anything except China sourced roids in a capsule... and older, trusted companies are now getting greedy and bombing the market with their own bottled steroids, we will all need prescriptions to get any type of supplement.

It's unfortunate that some companies are just greedy to make that quick buck, but will be ending up spending time in club fed pretty soon with a reality check. Many don't believe this and neither did I until recently, but ALL supplements are probably going to be banned in the not-to distant future.

Djinn · 10-06-2009, 12:16 AM

Well if all supplements are banned then EVERYTHING will be easy to get since a GIANT black market will open up. What happened with prohibition?? Everyone turned into an alcoholic. Cocaine, hash, crack, smack, glass, ex, pot, acid, shrooms, are easier to get in LA or NY than finding a doctor and getting a prescription. I don't do illegal drugs (mostly because I bust my ass too much in the gym to mess myself up later) but I work in the film business so its all around me and its like ordering a fucking pizza.

- Ali

Force of Green Labs · 10-06-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Djinn

Well if all supplements are banned then EVERYTHING will be easy to get since a GIANT black market will open up. What happened with prohibition?? Everyone turned into an alcoholic. Cocaine, hash, crack, smack, glass, ex, pot, acid, shrooms, are easier to get in LA or NY than finding a doctor and getting a prescription. I don't do illegal drugs (mostly because I bust my ass too much in the gym to mess myself up later) but I work in the film business so its all around me and its like ordering a fucking pizza.

- Ali

You're right about the drugs. I lived in the Barrington Plaza in Brentwood and out of the hundreds of units, every 3rd or 4th door, someone was offering some of the best drugs in LA. ....not that I ever tried anything.....

**Trank406** · 10-29-2009, 01:58 AM

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You're right about the drugs. I lived in the Barrington Plaza in Brentwood and out of the hundreds of units, every 3rd or 4th door, someone was offering some of the best drugs in LA. ....not that I ever tried anything.....

Ahh drugs.. everybody's doing em lmaooo