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Old 10-11-2007, 10:31 PM   #1
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I've tried this once and really only felt lethargic from it (which is a common side of increased GH from what I know). They recently posted a couple studies in their AM forum that got me digging a lil, but both studies are really old and I am not great at breaking down studies:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/usp-l...l-aint-no.html

Here is part of the second study listed:

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1: Horm Res. 1991;36(1-2):41-6.Links
Dopaminergic regulation of gonadotropin and thyrotropin hormone secretion is altered with age.
Greenspan SL, Sparrow D, Rowe JW.

Division of Gerontology, Beth Israel Hospital, Boston, Mass.

To determine if age-related changes in glycoprotein pituitary hormone secretion are associated with alterations in dopaminergic regulation, plasma gonadotropins and TSH were measured before and after L-dopa administration in 44 young (31-44 years of age) and 42 old (64-88 years of age) healthy male participants. Plasma GH and PRL were also determined in order to examine the somatotroph and lactotrope response. In the young, following L-dopa, plasma FSH, LH and TSH were unchanged from baseline. However, in older subjects, plasma FSH was significantly increased (p less than 0.001) and a similar trend was noted for LH. Plasma TSH was significantly depressed (p less than 0.002) in older subjects only. Following L-dopa, increases in plasma GH and decreases in plasma PRL were of similar magnitude in each group. These data indicate that dopaminergic modulation of gonadotropins and TSH is altered with age.

PMID: 1814800 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Thoughts on any of this?
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To sum it up for you... PowerFULL = Garbage.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:17 PM   #3
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To sum it up for you... PowerFULL = Garbage.
I dont want a summary....explain. U summabeach
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I have the bulk form of it, which is known as 1-carboxy. I'm going to give it a try soon and will let you know how it works.
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To sum it up for you... PowerFULL = Garbage.
Show me a hormonal supplement with better data? Everyone is entiled to an opinion, but atleast state why it is garbage.

I will give reasons why it's not.

In a study by Lin & Tucci* the average increase of HGH was 12mg/ml…which is like injecting 5 IU’s of synthetic HGH - (which is a **** load of HGH and would cost you thousands of dollars a month!).

In the same study, a good amount of the HEALTHY test subjects (not old, sick hospital patients) had an increase of 40ng/ml…which is like injection a WHOPPING 15IU’s of synthetic HGH – again, off the charts and would cost you thousands each month.

DO NOT BELIEVE ME just look up the reference below as the studies do not lie.

In a completely different study performed by Greenspan**, one ingredient in PowerFULL was shown to increase GH production by an incredible 221%!

This proves without a shadow of a doubt PowerFULL contains all-nautral organic ingredients that rival the effects of synthetic Human Growth Hormone!

In addition, these levels are substantially higher than those seen with GHB, the notoriously famous drug, which had a large following many years ago for its supposed ability to decrease fat mass, amongst other things.

Again, this is THIRD PARTY research using HEALTHY MEN so the results are solid as a freakin’ rock…

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* Lin T, Tucci JR. Provocative tests of growth-hormone release. A comparison of results with seven stimuli. Ann Intern Med. 1974 Apr;80(4):464-9

**Greenspan, S. et al (1991) “Dopaminergic regulation of gonadotropin and thyrotropin hormone secretion is altered with age” Horm Res 36:41-46.

#Tharakan B, Dhanasekaran M, Mize-Berge J, et al. Anti-parkinson botanical Mucuna pruriens prevents levodopa induced plasmid and genomic DNA damage. Phytother Res. 2007 Jul 11; Published Online Ahead of Print.
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I've tried this once and really only felt lethargic from it (which is a common side of increased GH from what I know). They recently posted a couple studies in their AM forum that got me digging a lil, but both studies are really old and I am not great at breaking down studies:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/usp-l...l-aint-no.html

Here is part of the second study listed:



Thoughts on any of this?
Travis,

The oldest study is 1974 and it was published and peer reviewed.
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I based my opinion solely on the effects of the product, or lack thereof.
Okay. We do not expect a 100% success rate..it will never happen with any supplement or drug.

Just an odd way to label a company garbage, but with growth, the hate follows. I need to learn not to be so sensitive.

take care
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Okay. We do not expect a 100% success rate..it will never happen with any supplement or drug.

Just an odd way to label a company garbage, but with growth, the hate follows. I need to learn not to be so sensitive.

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