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[Right Hook]

Originally Posted by Badsanta488

out of curiosity, what was the hierarchy of anabolics you tried? i assume you started out easy and moved up the latter, and didn't incorporate the enan/tren/var early on? lol

It's all kidn of a blur of abuse but my first was havoc solo (conservative). Second was havoc stacked with something (m drol maybe?). 3rd was transdermal test and m drol again I think. Then it was on and it was test prop, enth, dbawl, var, tren, winny, ??? probably something I'm forgetting. Gawd that was fun. I'm done with the aas now though. Too much to lose and it gained me nothing I felt I could not do with proper diet/training and an occasional OTC cycle.

[Right Hook]

Prop was a bitch. I brewed it in EO so I could make a high mg/ml concentration. I'm not sure if I was having reactions to the EO or high mg gear but there was about 2 times I almost checked myself into emergency.

[bitterplacebo]

George likes his chicken spicy.

Originally Posted by bitterplacebo

[Badsanta488]

Originally Posted by Right Hook

It's all kidn of a blur of abuse but my first was havoc solo (conservative). Second was havoc stacked with something (m drol maybe?). 3rd was transdermal test and m drol again I think. Then it was on and it was test prop, enth, dbawl, var, tren, winny, ??? probably something I'm forgetting. Gawd that was fun. I'm done with the aas now though. Too much to lose and it gained me nothing I felt I could not do with proper diet/training and an occasional OTC cycle.

interesting, so you think the AAS cycles weren't much more effective than a legal ph/ds?

Originally Posted by Right Hook

Prop was a bitch. I brewed it in EO so I could make a high mg/ml concentration. I'm not sure if I was having reactions to the EO or high mg gear but there was about 2 times I almost checked myself into emergency.

did you feel that prop gave you less bloat and sides than enth, or do you think test is test?

Originally Posted by bitterplacebo

George likes his chicken spicy.

so in laymans terms, wtf does it mean?

[bitterplacebo]

Originally Posted by Badsanta488

so in laymans terms, wtf does it mean?

George should reap the full effects in much less than 3 days for any spice that decays at a rate of less than half every 18 hours. He eats the chicken at nearly even intervals.

[Right Hook]

Originally Posted by Badsanta488

interesting, so you think the AAS cycles weren't much more effective than a legal ph/ds?



did you feel that prop gave you less bloat and sides than enth, or do you think test is test?



so in laymans terms, wtf does it mean?

Not really for me. Some guys seem to be hyper responders. Maybe it was all the abuse? I dont know. I've never seen drastic results from any steroid.

It's hard to say b/c I was using the prop with dbol. I hated dbol. It aromatized so bad I was dosing a-dex really high and still had itchy nips. Eventually I called in letro but that shit takes at least a week to really kick in. I basically used letro my entire time on cycle. The a-dex doing nothing could have been a source problem as well.

In the end I think test is test. I had some aromatization problems with high doses of enth though too. I think test is overrated in the steroid world. Abusers like gixxer would agree.

[Badsanta488]

so you don't think test is king and should be the base of every cycle then? seems like that is the general consensus but obviously everyone's body chem is different so there's no right answer..

[bitterplacebo]

Originally Posted by Right Hook

Eventually I called in letro but that shit takes at least a week to really kick in.

That spice sounds valid.
I'm cool with it.

[Right Hook]

Originally Posted by Badsanta488

so you don't think test is king and should be the base of every cycle then? seems like that is the general consensus but obviously everyone's body chem is different so there's no right answer..

I personally would not be afraid to run tren ace solo. I think even dinoiii has said you can use tren as a base. I think test is nice but I'd only ever use it at a low dose. 200mg's seemed to always be my sweet spot.

[Badsanta488]

yeah i am afraid of the bloat with test so a maintenance dose would probably have to be the way to go. i also remember D saying that about tren, but it seems contrary to common sense IMO to run it solo. seems like you would have more pronounced side effects especially sexual dysfunction with no test